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EMMER: Certainly not an everyday occurrence ...

O. Müntzer: No, that's true. It was a transition period between worldviews and we were never sure we were doing the right thing. When I became pregnant, many thought the child would be born deformed, the child of a minister and a nun. But we loved each other and overcame our concerns.

EMMER: And you found new fields of activity ...

O. Müntzer: Oh yes, my husband held his trade fairs in German and had procured a printing press that I helped to operate. We saw the suffering of the common people and gathered supporters around us who demanded more rights. At some point that was not welcomed.

EMMER: Your husband had to flee in the summer of 1524 after he and his Allstedter Bund had set fire to a chapel and his writings had also drawn the anger of the elector and Martin Luther.

O. Müntzer: Where there is planing ... Of course, these people condemned us. But we were close to people, saw their need. And this need also broke through and led to uprisings.

EMMER: The symbol of their movement, the Bundschuh, stood for this simplicity.

O. Müntzer: Yes, our movement was one of many across Europe. But that's right for our area. Simply as a contrast to the metal shoes of the knights. But I'm actually more proud of the other symbol, our flag.

EMMER: The rainbow flag. You designed and sewed them yourself.

O. Müntzer: Correct. It became our standard.

EMMER: Do you regret something too?

O. Müntzer: Yes of course. We never wanted a war. We just wanted to change something. And I also think we have. We have sparked new thoughts. And the death of Thomas and other dear people is, of course, terrible.